Neither of those is true. The four-year worker would have recieved $35,000, but would not have recieved a car.

The 20 year worker would have recived $68,000, no car, would only recieve whatever pension they had accumulated, and could not begin getting it until age 65. They would have given up everything else, including benefits.

To put it in perspective, these plants are sweat shops during the summer months. At one work station where I worked 10 years it was not uncommon for the temperature there to hit 120 degrees. There are no windows, no ventilation, etc. It’s not uncommon for workers to pass out in the heat, be taken to the nurses station, cooled down, given liquids, and then sent back to the line.

This debate keeps going back and forth while the Auto Industry burns.

Just imagine how upset you would be if your child was at the E.R. with a Compounded fractured thigh bone and all the E.R. workers and Doctors kept fighting over how the leg was actually broken and who was at fault for the bone punching through the skin.

This fighting goes on as your child slowly dies from blood loss and infection , BUT….once the E.R. team agrees on how the injury happened and which Tax Dollars will cover the bill to save the leg….it now must be cut off from infections but now the upper body is infected and the Charade goes on until the victim is chopped into pieces until they are dead.

Lets stay focused on keeping the system alive and not fight over how the victim got sick .

I hope you would take a look at my blog and read before lumping the average worker in with the idiocy of Buzz Hargrove and Ken Lewenza.

http://paulsrants-paulsstuff.blogspot.com/

A couple of stories.
A TRUE tale of two GM workers.
One, employed for four years, gets a buy-out package last fall of $35,000 and a brand new Malibu.
Another, employed for 20 years, gets $165,000, the car and a full pension.

A couple lives up near Orillia, but buys a house in the GTA that they can barely afford, because the only real work is in the GTA. They are cutting it a little close, because the price of real estate in the GTA is insane. The slowdown comes, they decide to sell the house because, why wait until you are in real trouble, and besides, the prime earner has now been cut to 4 days a week (non-union, no benefits).
The Bank says that it will cost $4000.00 in penalties to pay off the mortgage. They get an offer on the house in three weeks, all is well, right?
WRONG> they check the numbers with the Bank, and since the interest rates have dropped in those three weeks, the penalty is now (get this) $17,250.00
But the Bank can offer them $300.00 off that number as a discount.
And since it will now cost them $35,000.00 to sell the house and they simply don’t have it, it is just a matter of time until they are forced to walk away and go bankrupt.
Why is nobody talking about the predators at your local branch. They are making a killing from desperate people just trying to do the right thing and sell.
Very scary.

It’s going to be a bad year.

It takes a special helluva nerve for a group of Union members to demand that Canadians fill their garages with CAW products while they themselves shop at Big-Box stores to fill their Homes with imported Electronics and Kitchen Appliances that are made or assembled by non-Union slave-labour wages in Mexico and China.

Since the 80′s I have seen many Canadian Manufactures in Toronto that were forced into closing down for good or to shift productions to a cheaper source .
We now see that the CAW members enjoy the increased Buying-Power in their pay check because of WalMart,FutureShop,BestBuy,and even the cheaper Imported cars seen in the Plant parking lots at FORD/GM/Chrysler .

I stopped buying CAW cars when I saw a news clip one night where the Assembly Line workers fought for the Right to dress like Slobs while at work.
We are all Walking-Billboards that advertize what’s inside us , and if these workers appear to NOT give a damn about themselves……then how can I feel assured that they give a damn about the Car they are assemblying for me.

Just ask any CAW member with a Daughter if they would want her to marry a guy that dressed like a slob and whined endlessly about their “Entitlements” for others to support their Employment and keep up their LifeStyle standards.

BTW
I don’t believe for one second that the labour costs for building a car is only 7% of the final costs.
Either they are saying that there is a 97% profit margin,or all the other Union/Non union workers are working for FREE like Happy-Elves inside Tree Trunks.
The media and Unions have never ever shown the Public an entire process for building a car because it may show the senior workers doing the lest amount of work for the highest salary and longest vacation time and benefits.
The CAW and UAW created a Ponze-Scheme that has finally collapsed under its own weight,this is much like the Pyramid-Scam that runs out of suporters at the base that pay for the people at the tip of the Pyramid who drawn money from the cash Pool.

Sorry guys,everyone is guilty for this huge Charade by the Big-3,Unions,and Governments that lied to stay in power or lie to get Elected with hollow promises of Jobs-4-Life to Unions and Public Workers.

Are you sure you have run a real business or done a payroll before?